recently, my mother's been hounding me to do personal study (i think she's slowly realizing i'm becoming disillusioned with the organization and is trying to reign me back in).
i don't know what made me do this, but i decided to test the waters by challenging 'new light'.
she asked me what i learned in personal study, so i brought up organ transplants and the wt flip floppy stance on them (thanks jwfacts!).
I feel that your situation is a prime reason why the org is pushing their latest propaganda - "the G.B. is not inspired - they're imperfect men who have admitted their errors in the past and have updated the "truth" when Jehovah revealed it to them."
This drivel is what J.W.'s are being fed as "spiritual food from the slave" in order to fend off the ever-increasing exposure of the org's anti-scriptural teachings.
Be prepared to hear it being parroted by a Witness near you.
wanting to discover if the org's recent self-praise regarding carrying out remedial work on a dam at their new h.q.
location was justified, i contacted the new york state parks department to ask a simple question:.
#1 email.
Thanks for the info betterdaze.
NY44M: in the org's case - a successful decayed!
wanting to discover if the org's recent self-praise regarding carrying out remedial work on a dam at their new h.q.
location was justified, i contacted the new york state parks department to ask a simple question:.
#1 email.
Wanting to discover if the org's recent self-praise regarding carrying out remedial work on a dam at their new H.Q. location was justified, I contacted the New York State Parks department to ask a simple question:
#1 email
"I am writing to enquire if Sterling Forest Lake is now owned by the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, or is it publicly owned?
Thanking you for your time and trouble,"
Searcher.
Response:
"Good Afternoon Searcher:
Sterling Forest State Park is managed by New York State Parks."
Best Wishes,
NYS Parks
#2 email
"I'm sorry if my question wasn't clear. I appreciate that the Sterling Forest State Park isn't owned by the WTBTS, but are they now owners/responsible for the lake itself, or is the lake not their legal concern?" Searcher.
To date - no response.
Perhaps someone on the other side of the pond could have more success in discovering if the org is responsible for the lake and its infrastructure.
so i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.
it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?
i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.
Highlighting the blatant doctrinal falsehoods of the org will be far more effective in awakening J.W.'s to the truth, whereas pointing the finger at "prominent" J.W.'s lifestyles - or even J.W. paedophiles - will be met with, "Well, every religion has bad in it; even the 12 apostles included Judas."
If people focus on the head of the snake - the organization's dogmas & practices - that will be more beneficial. IMO.
hi all , because i'm useless and can't be bothered studying, i need some rebuttals for the excuses given in this week's bs , (i love how the acronym matches its origin) my uber dub father pleaded with me to study this week's book study as it addresses my issues with them being directed by holy spirit etc and how jah reveals things progressively , problem is i know there's a great argument to put fwd with proper preparation but i'm onto my 2nd drink of the evening and can't be assed , please unload some smoking guns i can take with me tomorrow .
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chur.
Paragraph 15 - "The disciples did not comprehend this vital point and later asked the resurrected Jesus: “Are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” Jesus, however, chose not to reveal any more details at that time." (Acts 1:6,7)
False! Jesus was not withholding the information until a later date, because he bluntly told them that such knowledge and information belonged only to the Father. Jesus himself didn't know - so how could he choose "not to reveal any more details?" (Matthew 24:36)
The org uses slimy, deceptive wording yet again, to mislead the sheep and conceal what the Bible really teaches!
Best wishes for your discussion.
thier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.
this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.
there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.
Parasite: a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/parasite
Can you think of anyone who fits the bill?
november broadcast is up:.
https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201611.
we learn interesting things.
Adding to SMIDDY, FREDDO, and Pale Emperor's comments:
Very conveniently, (for the org's perverted purposes) the awakened teenager voluntarily walks out of the family home.
Ok WTBTS/J.W.'s, now show the other side of the coin - when the teenager doesn't leave the family home. Demonstrate how their family situation involving meals, holidays, etc. is unaffected by remaining at home.
Once you show this paradox, try providing scriptural evidence for this contradiction as proof for the J.W.'s who must shun their child who "moved out" of the family home.
In the J.W. world, God's laws on shunning only apply to a person's zip code/postcode!!!!
well today was the big day.
we finally let the cat out of the bag to the in-laws about watchtower.
previously there were unknown rumors being spread about me and today i found out why the wife and i are being shunned.
Well done Darkknight. Totally free now!
As for your F.I.L. and other J.W. family members, I would sincerely doubt if you will ever be having any family get-togethers with them.
Kind of you to leave the elderly man with his "beliefs" intact. If he's sincere, maybe one day he'll ask you to discuss your reasons for leaving "the truth."
of all the things that the watchtower has done wrong, what would you say is the singular most powerful thing that you could point a jw to, to crack their eyes open?
what is the singular thing that can be expressed bluntly and conclusively that might shock a jw to their senses?
if you could only carry one arrow in your quiver on your way to war with watchtower, what would it be?.
No single falsehood would open many J.W.'s eyes, but at least it could be the thin edge of the wedge for them.
After a recent discussion with an elder at a trolley in which he immediately denied what I said was claimed in his literature - but then agreed after 5 minutes - I now rank this as my favourite "thin edge" -
Based on their interpretation of John 5:29, the society teaches that individuals will be "practicing vile things" during Christ's 1000 years reign. Therefore, how can it possibly be a paradise if people are going to be permitted to practice vile things? (it-2 p. 789; re chap. 41 p. 300 par. 16; rs p. 338 par. 1; bh p. 214 par. 3; uw chap. 9 p. 76 par. 12; w82 4/1 p. 25 par. 18 w78 9/1 p. 22 par. 9)
The elder's squirming was a revelation.
